18 Nov AC/DC’s “Hell Ain’t A Bad Place To Be” (Studio, from, “Let There Be Rock”)
As anticipated here a few days ago, I think I really did manage to capture this sound as well. It’s – as always – a matter of “studio album sound”, in the sense that, with minor adjustments, it was used all along on Let There Be Rock. This is my theory:
– Amp used: Marshall 2203 for both of the brothers
– Microphone: U47 FET (at least one per cabinet; WHY this microphone? Well, naturally we can’t be sure, it’s not mentioned anywhere. BUT we do know that the subsequent live “If You Want Blood” album – which was done as the usual tour following a new record – was recorded with U47s. Also, it has been an AC/DC tradition to recreate the sound of the latest album released out on tour, or very similar. Soooo….)
– I think that the microphone pre-amp was sent into distortion by overloading its input. This was added either on the preamp itself or in the analog console used at the time, a “Solid State” analog drive that was summed to the amp overdrive.
I simulated this exactly the same way, overloading my mic preamp.
The settings for the amp were:
Amplifier: 1977 Marshall 2203, stock.
Presence: 0
Bass: 2
Mids:4
Treble: 6
Volume: 8
PreAmp: 5-6 ish on Rhythm, 10 on solo.
Guitar is a 1970-1971 Gibson SG Custom, just like Angus’ original in every aspect. The controls were set to Volume 10 and Tone 5 for the rhythm; Volume 10 and Tone 8 for the solo.
I think Angus definitely used the “trick” of closing down the tone knob in the studio many, many times.
Additionally – I’ll say this here for now – I truly think that even in the movie “Let There Be Rock” at least a Marshall 2203 was used, and I also think the tone knob on the guitar was rather closed to avoid excessive feedback at high gain. It’s still unknown what was used to overdrive the amps for this movie, but my investigation will continue!
So, as you understand, my theory is that NO boost whatsoever was used here, just the amps and the mic preamp overdrive.
This is the year (1977) when AC/DC had attained an endorsement contract from Marshall, and very likely, they had received the 2203s and their cabinets brand new directly from them.
The 2203s were therefore the new thing to have, which would be a good reason for having used these amps.
Since the G12-65’s were not yet in production, probably G12Ms were used, which is what I used here as well (bottom cab, Pre-Rolas G12Ms).
Regarding the post-production of the sound, I used Neve 8081 modules here. I think this album was recorded on a Neve console, so I used the Neve outboard simulation.
Specifically, the EQ controls are quite different from what I have used so far, in fact these controls do help shape the sound, especially on the higher medium frequencies filtering.
Additionally, a tape emulation was added. On the solo, a tape echo was also used, nothing else.
I almost forgot to say something that I have been confident of for a long time: playing. The strings are brushed, lightly brushed, almost always, never hit hard.
I am not sure if I give this impression, because of my body language and aggressive face-look (that’s just due to how I hear the sound in my mind) but the strings must really just be touched, brushed in fact. It takes a lot of control of the right hand too, which is an additional element of concentration, and still makes me ‘wow’ at how these boys – very “young” at this time back then – had already grasped so many important things that I only understood around my 40 years of age.
Impressive.
Jessey
Posted at 21:14h, 08 JanuaryWhat about BBC Sight and Sound, VERY Similar to the original recording and Angus used a Schaffer-Vega Diversity System (You can see it on top of the amp. If you hear the Let There Be Rock Video from BBC Sight and Sound when he does the Lick at the start of the video its overdriven and then CLEAN when he bends and then he goes straight infront of the amp and on top of that You might be able to see the Schaffer-Vega Diversity System (Its visible). Then when Angus does “G E G E G E A E G E” You can hear that overdriven tone like in the original recording. Go and hear it. Its very weird no feedback except when he finishes with the solo 1 and 2 (Mainly after solo 2 you can hear the feedback) and when he finishes the song after “B” Chord and slides up Its clean and sensitive tone and then when he does the “B” Chord its overdriven… Check it out.
BBC Sight and Sound LTBR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzUce9bolA
Check it out seriously you’ll go Yeah Jessey’s right!
Jessey
Posted at 21:06h, 08 JanuaryIsn’t the Neve Console 8081 basically a Compressor sort of thing? well maybe the schaffer replica would do very similar.
harryj46
Posted at 15:46h, 27 Julyloved that. ive always adored the tone on this album, unique and i couldnt say of anything other music that sounds anything like it. i always suspected the attack was something to do with the mic….i recorded myself once into an crappy old tape player right nest to amp, and on play back, theres that noise! i explained it as getting plosive p’s off an guitar amp. fil, if i want this as live sound, how to acheive? have 2203 (jmp 100 year 1977), so mic that up into a pa….but how to “overdrive the mic? busy guy i know but any clues gratefully received. you the man. harry
Nick
Posted at 18:46h, 09 JuneHere’s a picture of Angus on the FOTW Tour with a red SG custom with nickel hardware!
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1440&bih=809&tbm=isch&tbnid=kkoo8ayhUEtHUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/A/ACDC/Fly/acdc-fly-wall.html&docid=as635i0XLxzeIM&imgurl=http://www.vinylrecords.ch/A/ACDC/Fly/acdc-fly-wall-81.jpg&w=530&h=432&ei=iH3TT6zLBOri2AXy262RDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=910&vpy=410&dur=149&hovh=203&hovw=249&tx=114&ty=103&sig=107166880915138358712&page=1&tbnh=136&tbnw=162&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:115
Brunduz
Posted at 11:19h, 09 Junebrushed strings? wow this is new for me i thought that both brothers hit strings very hard as i heard also i actually do hit strings pretty hard just on solos i give it a slight brushy touch
Nick
Posted at 16:25h, 15 AprilHey Fil, is your toggle switch cap cream or white?
OldSchoolRocker666
Posted at 11:22h, 28 MarchJust how much difference is there with the drive between a 2203 and a Super lead?
I get the impression when reading around that they are supposly much more ”driveable” than Super Leads stock or something, but it’s hard to judge spot on for me, my ears are not that good to hear all differences easily so i probubly won’t hear alot of difference but is there really that much more drive into a 2203 compared to a super lead?
What do you think?
Ant
Posted at 10:03h, 27 Marchi must admit i have realy taken a shine to the powerage album, its so raw! tight and full of nuiances, love it 🙂
Johnny
Posted at 17:02h, 27 MarchHell yeah ant, that album kicks ass!!!!
Angusrocks101
Posted at 20:40h, 27 MarchThat is the album that Angus really shows his speed. Its fast and notes in sequences that are hard to play.
AngusRudd1019
Posted at 22:50h, 27 MarchBEST AC/DC ALBUM EVER in my opinion
LG
Posted at 01:36h, 27 MarchHi there people, long time no “see”!
I’m writting here just to share our brand new edited video! The song is the same as I posted around 1 month ago if I remember well…!
Dig it!
http://youtu.be/4qPe52VCi9o
Hope to have some more videos/news about Solodallas! 😉
LG
Johnny
Posted at 06:10h, 27 MarchI like it 🙂
gtrdave
Posted at 09:35h, 15 SeptemberThat’s what I’m talkin’ bout!
Ryley
Posted at 06:57h, 26 Februaryi am unable to view the comments for this post :S i have no idea why it won’t work…
Ryley
Posted at 06:57h, 26 Februaryookaayy nvm it works now xD gotta love technology sometimes…
SoloDallas
Posted at 14:09h, 27 FebruaryI too am unable to see comments; there must be aproblem with this post 🙁